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The Return of the Griffin?

by 5ocietyx

The Slaving of the Giants

by 5ocietyx

giant-humans-found-in-indiana-2 There are many reports of giants throughout history, both in religious texts such as the Bible and in folklore and myth, such as the story of Fionn MacCumhaill. Steven Quayle’s excellent log of all things giants GENESIS 6 GIANTS has many reports on the discovery of giant skeletons around the ancient world, ultimately suggesting these giants to be the Nephilim – the sons of God who fell upon the daughters of the Earth – in the book of Genesis.


a Wisconsin giant

In his extremely informative book Mutants: On the form, variety and errors of the human body, Armand Marie Leroi describes Aristotle’s observation of the effect that castration can have on an organism. “Nearly twenty-five centuries ago, while working on a remote Aegean island, Aristotle made an observation that was at once banal, beautiful and chilling.  ‘All animals,’ he wrote, ‘if operated on when they are young, become bigger and better looking their unmutilated fellows; if they be mutilated when full grown, they do not take on any increase of size… As a general  rule, mutilated animals grow to a greater length than the unmutilated.’ By ‘mutilation’ Aristotle meant castration. Hence the banality of his observation that merely repeated facts as well known to any fourth-century Greek farmer as to any modern one.. He had taken a barnyard commonplace, that gelded rams, stallion and cockerels are larger than intact animals..”


an 18th century castrato

Two types, one tall, one short.

If we refer to the fossil record we can find two types of human forms, Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon. Researcher and psychologist Stan Gooch provided us with a sober theory about human origins, that we are in fact a hybrid of these two forms of primitive man. The morphology of both of these types differed enough for us to say that they were two separate species, one was a lot smaller than modern humans, and one was taller. you could say that to Neanderthal Cro-Magnon would have resembled a giant, and Gooch actually proposed that the Bible (or similar religious texts) are the written record of Neanderthal’s meeting with Cro-Magnon, preserved by us, human beings, the rightful heirs to those two previous legacies.

Cro-Magnon vs Neanderthal

Fee Fi Fo Fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman.

In the Welsh origin story of Brutus, founder of the Britons, his party of emigrants upon landing encounter only giants on the isles, whom they then proceed to chase down, fight and totally destroy.  These giants are clearly remnants of a previous race, who at this time existed only in the most isolated peninsulas of the European continent. They numbered so few they were easily eradicated by man. As stated before, Cro-Magnon was taller than humans, and had occupied Europe before humans, supplanting European Neanderthal before him, so it stands to reason that some members of the relic species Cro-Magnon could still have existed at the fringes of civilisation. it should be noted here that the tallest humans on Earth are in Denmark, Northern Europe, where giant myths are heavily prevalent.



Domestication of animals is believed to have begun prior to 33,000BCE, with the dog. But it would be fair to say that domestication of another kind would have taken place before this time, on a species much easier to control – humans. Slavery is said to be as old as humanity, and its not too much of a stretch of the imagination to see the control system in place today – such as our laws, codes of conduct or morals – is nothing more than the domestication of humans. Incidentally, Gooch proposed the actual hybridization event occurred around 35,000 years ago, in the approximate time frame during which domestication of animals began.

Egyptian depiction of domestication

Now, back to the meat and veg, so to speak.



The practice of castration has persisted for thousands of years, with both domestic animals and humans. Arab slave traders, by far the most prolific and ambitious slavers ever, traded many castrated boys. ‘The Calipha in Baghdad at the beginning of the 10th Century had 7,000 black eunuchs and 4,000 white eunuchs in his palace.”[129] The Arab slave trade typically dealt in the sale of castrated male slaves. Black boys at the age of eight to twelve had their scrotum and penis completely amputated. Around 9 out of 10 bled to death during the procedure, but the high price brought by eunuchs on the market made the practice profitable.’ Castration was also used by many nations after war, where they would castrate the remaining men and boys, rather than kill them, preferring to use them as slaves. it was used by royal families to sever the family lines of those families whom they had supplanted, or whom they wanted to extinguish.

Theon Greyjoy, the character in Game of Thrones represents a castrated royal family line, both as prisoner to the Starks (Ned being a fair lord), and House Bolton.

In theory..

Is it possible that modern humans – upon discovery and subjugation of the few remaining Cro-Magnon – enslaved the giant species, and castrated any young they found along the way? if this castration punishment was happening at the same time as domestication of animals (and modern man) then humans wouldnt have failed to notice that castration in the infant stage makes for a larger being. So were the extreme giants that are according to Steven Quayle found all over the world the first attempts to control/castrate the old giant bloodlines, and create slaves out of our tall ancestors? After all, an army of giants would be very useful for a new species intent on world domination, and the relatively few remains found today could be explained by the fact that castration would have meant certain, and almost sudden, extinction of the genetic line of giants.


Our next line of investigation will be to study the skull shapes of currently known giants to determine how closely related they are to Cro-Magnon skulls.


taken from –

Mutants: On the form, variety and errors of the human body, Armand Marie Leroi

Evolution: was man gibbon a second chance?

by 5ocietyx

what follows is a piece Stan Gooch wrote 35 years ago regarding human origins.

‘Chimpanzees and gorillas both have very heavy brow ridges. Gibbons also have these, but to a noticeably lesser extent. Orangs do not have them. The infants of all ape species have them in much less degree than the parents. In fact the young of all primates look a good deal more human than the adults. For my own money, the young of the gibbon look most human of all.

Baby gibbon

The young of apes look more human because further back in evolutionary time the adult ancestors of these primates were more human. The eighteen-week-old chimpanzee foetus looks quite amazingly human. These creatures have become more ape-like, after an initially closer start to ourselves, an example of devolution. A second, more important point is that young apes look more like us because we have managed to play one of nature’s oldest tricks – that of preserving child-like characteristics into adult life. This process is called neotony and is one of nature’s commonest methods of continuing the evolution of a species, in particular for backing it out of a dead-end. We have, for example, the flat face of the baby chimp, gorilla and gibbon, not the jutting muzzle of the adult. The process of neotony is central to any understanding of man’s evolution, and in particular to my own views.

another baby gibbon

One last word in favour of gibbons. Bernard Campbell states significantly: ‘The evidence for brachiation in man’s ancestry accumulates.’ Of course, with this statement Campbell does not mean to indicate the gibbon as such. Yet, the gibbon is the master brachiator.’

Taken from –

pages 34-35 of The Neanderthal Question (1977), by Stan Gooch

Drachen hohle, Germany

by 5ocietyx

The Drachenhöhle (dragons cave) is in Austria, near Mixnitz, and was named after the finding of the remains of cave bears, which were thought to be the remains of Dragons, as cave bears were unknown to the people who discovered them.

In this sediment a huge amount of remains were found, not just the bones of cave bears, but human remains like ancient fire places and flint tools. These are among the oldest human remains found in Austria, 65.000 to 31.000 years old.

The Ancient Cattle of Chillingham

by 5ocietyx

At Chillingham Castle in Northumberland, England, there exists a rare ancient breed of cattle consisting of about 90 animals which inhabit a very large park that has existed since at least the Middle Ages. Behind a dry stone enclosure this herd has remained genetically isolated for hundreds of years, surviving despite their small population. These cattle are not domesticated in any way, further claims suggest that Chillingham Wild Cattle may be direct descendants of the primordial ox “which roamed these islands before the dawn of history“;

‘Chillingham cattle are small, with upright horns in both males and females. Bulls weigh around 300 kg, cows about 280 kg. They are white with coloured ears (they may also have some colour on feet, nose and around the eyes). In the case of Chillingham Cattle, the ear-colour is red – in most White Park animals the ears are black (which is genetically dominant over red in cattle). Chillingham Cattle are of generally primitive conformation while White Parks are of classical British beef conformation.’


The researcher Alan Wilson claims Chillingham cattle were the original holy cattle of the Druids who once inhabited Britain. The cattle were sacred to the Druids, as can be seen in this text from Mysteries of the Druids (1861) by W. Winwood Reade:

‘When the new year approached, the Druids beset themselves to discover this plant (mistletoe) upon an oak, on which tree it they marched by night with great solemnity towards the spot, inviting all to join their procession with these words: The New Year is at hand: let us gather the mistletoe.

First marched the Ovades in their green sacrificial robes leading two milk-white bullocks. Next came the bards singing the praises of the Mighty Essence, in raiment blue as the heavens to which their hymn ascended. Then a herald clothed in white with two wings drooping down on each side of his head, and a branch of vervain in his hand encircled by two serpents.

He was followed by three Derwydd (Druids) one of whom carried the sacrificial bread–another a vase of water-and the third a white wand. Lastly, the Arch-Druid, distinguished by the tuft or tassel to his cap, by the bands hanging from his throat, by the scepter in his hand and by the golden crescent on his breast, surrounded by the whole body of the Derwydd and humbly followed by the noblest warriors of the land.

An altar of rough stones was erected under the oak, and the Arch-Druid, having sacramentally distributed the bread and wine, would climb the tree, cut the mistletoe with a golden knife, wrap it in a pure white cloth, slay and sacrifice the bullocks, and pray to God to remove his curse from barren women, and to permit their medicines to serve as antidotes for poisons and charms from all misfortunes.’

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The Bennu bird of Brentford and the Phoenix of Osterley

by 5ocietyx


Heron in Brentford Docks are thriving

As we trekked the zodiac, making pilgrimage up Wood Lane towards the sign of Aquarius, Osterley Park, we almost were diverted off course upon discovering a magical secret en-trance hidden within the roadside thicket but chose not to let our curiosity side-track us from the main task which was to reach the holy grail of western folklore.


Mysterious secret en-trance in Wood Lane, Osterley

As the crow flies, Osterley Park is a mile or so from the edge of Brentford. Pheasants have been spotted in the Osterley area by the 5ociety’s ornithological expeditionary parties in the past and are known to inhabit Osterley Park and the surrounds.


A male gold pheasant: a bird standing on a mossy rock in profile to right, with a crest and a long dappled tail; plate for ‘Birds … from the Menagerie at Osterley Park’ (1794)


An illustration of a Bald Eagle in the “Portraits of Rare and Curious Birds and their Descriptions from the Menagery of Osterley Park” by William Hayes and Family, 1794.

What is considered to be the nearest conventional bird to the phoenix – the gold pheasant was once caged in the Menagerie of Osterley along with a bald eagle that the U.S.A equates with the phoenix.

Stone eagle guarding Osterley House

Stone eagle guarding Osterley House

As previously mentioned in the Osterley Park: Holy Grail post, twin stone eagles guard the en-trance steps that lead to Osterley House. The Eagle and the Phoenix are known to be synonymous particularly in Craft Freemasonry.

Bennu Bird

Bennu Bird

The Bennu, a heron,  is an ancient Egyptian deity linked with the sun, creation, and rebirth. It may have been the inspiration for the phoenix in Greek mythology.

If you include the previously discussed Peacocks of Kew Gardens, Falcon of Osterley and Griffin of Brentford there are actually 6 types of bird that we have now identified on our travels as being associated with the local area of Brentford and Osterley that have connections to the phoenix.  (Seven if you include the chemtrail guzzling Thunderbirds soaring overhead taking on the New World Order’s squadron of metal birds as they leave Heathrow in pitched battle for air superiority.)

This would make sense as according to the Godmother of Synchromysticism, Mary Caine, Osterley Park itself is a giant bird. Or more pertinently the Aquarian phoenix of the grail legend and Chaldean zodiac.

This is the ‘herstory’ of the twelve knights of the round table or landscape zodiac of yore that all religions originate from.

The peacock, the heron, the falcon, the griffin and the pheasant are all biological signatures that testify to the zodiac. Although eagles no longer reside in the area, they are remembered in the stone statues.

As the phoenix symbolism would suggest, Brentford is forever changing. New structures are constantly being built with the present day being no exception with a hive of activity currently underway to regenerate the town.

Osterley is quieter, its village feel defies development by town planning laws and local consent as well as the will of the zodiac which inspired Francis Childs to wall off the grounds in the first place in what was seen at the time as an elitist statement of separation that someone like Anglo-Aussie eccentric Trenton Oldfield would see as divisively fencing something in. But with the sprawl of London an unimaginable possibility at the time the decision almost certainly saved this mystical metropolitan oasis from being concreted over with yet more residential properties and the grail would have been lost forever in the concrete forests of suburbia.

Yet the grail of Osterley Park, like Brentford, and as with the seasons is always changing, continually providing rejuvenating qualities yet forever remaining the same.

The Osterley Park Aviary was like a microcosm of the local eco-system that is home to a wide variety of ornithological species. But the more exotic winged creatures could not be caged.

The peacocks of Kew Gardens have the run of the place, although they were turfed out of Syon Park due to their squawking. Herons have been in London longer than modern man and the elusive griffin defies capture with implausible ease drifting into the folklore of the town, hidden in plain view in the very fabric of Brentford discernible to those who read the signs.


Peacock Alley, Syon Park, Brentford

The opulent Peacock Alley Bar remembers the lost peacocks of Syon.

Osterley Park: The Holy Grail

by 5ocietyx

Osterley Park lake

Osterley Park lake

According to Mary Caine’s Kingston Zodiac, Osterley Park forms the sign of Aquarius equating it with the phoenix-eagle, or waterpot, cauldron or grail.

“The earliest Chaldean sign for Aquarius was simply a water-pot. But crested bird, Cauldron and Grail all symbolise much the same idea; rebirth on a higher octave. Crested eagles, phoenixes and even peacocks sometimes appeared on Roman and early Christian tombstones; the crest signifying where the spirit escaped from the body. Just as the old or dead were plunged into the legendary cauldron and were revived, so the phoenix rose from its own ashes with the new year.”

Map of Osterley overlay on Aquarius of the Kingston Zodiac

Map of Osterley overlay on Aquarius of the Kingston Zodiac

As you enter the park through its front gates and walk up the tree-lined Alameda you instantly become aware of its rejuvenating qualities and peacefulness. On a summer’s day a breeze whistles through the towering row of trees before you reach the lake which forms the phoenix’s left leg.

A royal legend that adds intrigue to the zodiac theory is the story of how Edward III gave Osterley to a man called Fawkener on condition that he rode round it annually with a falcon on his wrist. This appears to be an example of nominative determinism.

Osterley Park crop field

Osterley Park crop field

Caine also links ‘Kew Garden’s heaven‘ with the ‘man-made hell of Brentford’ and ‘Syon House’s heavenly gates‘ with Osterley’s Easter Resurrection.

‘Three adjacent signs here stamp Man’s evolutionary journey on the landscape – from primal innocence through bitter experience to final illumination.’

The 5ociety concurs with Caine’s theory on the origin of the place-name ‘Oster-ley’ associating it with the goddess Ostara as well as the Great West ley-line that becomes the ‘A30 ley-line’. The Piccadilly line runs through Osterley and according to Alfred Watkins and a book called London’s Ley Lines – Pathways of Enlightenment’ is itself a ley-line that runs parallel to the Great West Road at this juncture.

Stone eagle guarding Osterley House

Stone eagle guarding Osterley House

Two eagles stand guard over the en-trance to Osterley House and an aviary once existed nearby in the park that housed among other creatures, the gold pheasant and bald eagle that are both associated with the phoenix.

Horace Walpole of Strawberry Hill remarked on Osterley House

“Oh, the palace of palaces! And yet a palace sans crown, sans coronet, but such expense! Such taste! Such profusion! The old house I have often seen, which was built by Sir Thomas Gresham; but it is so improved and enriched that all the Percies and Seymores of Syon must die with envy.”

Robert Adam Orangery, Osterley Park

Robert Adam Orangery, Osterley Park

He was less enamoured with the park itself labelling it ‘the ugliest spot in the universe’. Anyone who visits Osterley Park today will probably think the opposite especially if they venture into the gardens to the rear of the house which contain a Robert Adams Orangery and Temple of Pan and is one of the most idyllic corners of England but sadly the National Trust has in recent years placed a paywall at its en-trance.  Among its other natural wonders are a sacred grove of rhododendrons, a walled garden and mature cedars.

sacred rhododendron grove Osterley Park

sacred rhododendron grove Osterley Park

Nevertheless, the common man, a theme of Aquarius, can still wander freely along the lake and through another copse of mature cedars beside Osterley House adorned by its dreamy wisteria like a jewelled necklace and can still enter the gardens for a few pounds.

If you are early enough and fortunate you can see the sight of a swan using the lake as a runway before taking flight signifying the freedom and majesty the Holy Grail of Osterley heralds for one and all.

Swan, Osterley Park

Swan, Osterley Park

Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha

Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha, the largest Sikh temple in Europe viewed from Osterley Park

St Mary's church from Osterley Park

St Mary’s church steeple from Osterley Park

sacred rhododendron grove Osterley Park

sacred rhododendron grove Osterley Park

Robert Adam Orangery, Osterley Park

Robert Adam Orangery, Osterley Park

Robert Adam Orangery, Osterley Park

Robert Adam Orangery, Osterley Park

Temple of Pan, Osterley Park

Temple of Pan, Osterley Park

golden lake, Osterley Park

golden lake, Osterley Park


Robert Adams Orangery, Osterley Park

Swan, Osterley Park

Swan, Osterley Park

Robert Adam Orangery, Osterley Park

Robert Adam Orangery, Osterley Park

Stone eagle looks to the north guarding Osterley House

Stone eagle looks to the north guarding Osterley House

Robert Adams Orangery, Osterley Park

Robert Adams Orangery, Osterley Park

Temple of Pan, Osterley Park

Temple of Pan, Osterley Park

Lake, Osterley Park

Lake, Osterley Park

Temple of Pan-Osterley Park

Temple of Pan, Osterley Park

Crop field-Osterley Park

Crop field, Osterley Park

The Flying Griffin of Brentford

by 5ocietyx

The Brentford Griffin

Artist’s impression of the Griffin of Brentford

The Griffin was a part of Brentford’s heritage long before the first modern sightings of a real-life Griffin were reported in the 1980s.

Brentford Football Club’s ground is called Griffin Park. A pub on a corner of the stadium is called The Griffin. They serve Fuller’s Ale, brewed in bordering Chiswick. Fuller’s logo features a griffin.

The Green Dragon estate is a famous landmark of the town (seen in the background in the photo above). Griffin Court is situated just off the High Street.

The legend of the Griffin runs throughout the town, embedded in the street names, estates, football team, pubs and local folklore.

It transpires that there is historical evidence of a family of griffins who lived on Brentford Eyot. So the story goes, King Charles II bought the first one here as a present for his mistress, Nell Gwynn.  Neil A from the Beasts of London website picks up the tale

“During the middle of 1984, a Kevin Chippendale was strolling along Braemar Road, when he observed a strange creature in the skies near the Green Dragon apartments, rather coincidentally! He claimed that the beast resembled a dog but with wings and a beak.

Mr Chippendale saw the creature again in the February of 1985 and said that the apparition bore some resemblance to the creature painted on the sign of the Griffin Public House.

A friend of Kevin’s, an Angela Keyhoe also claimed to have seen the flying monster. She was on a bus journey when she saw it sitting on the gasometer next to the Waterman’s Art Centre. She said it resembled a giant black bird. Several passengers on the bus apparently saw the creature, and so did psychologist John Olssen, one morning whilst he was jogging near to the Thames. Sightings seem to escalate, and the legend was featured in the press and also on The Six O’ Clock News.

Nell Gwynn, who had a house in the Butts at Brentford. One day the griffin was playing on the banks of the River Brent, which flows past the Butts, and fell in. The hapless creature was washed down the Brent into the Thames, finally being washed up on Brentford Eyot. As it was assumed to have been killed, it was left alone and was able to live on the Eyot for many years – griffins having a lifespan of centuries.

Then Sir Joseph Banks brought back a griffin from a Pacific island where he had been with Captain Cook. This griffin was originally housed in the Pagoda in Kew Gardens, which is on the opposite bank of the Thames from Brentford Eyot where it found a mate awaiting it.

There was soon a whole colony of griffins and they spread out from the Eyot all over the town of Brentford, where they can still be seen to this day, if you look closely enough.

This story has stayed with me…it is a nice bit of Brentford mythology.”

The Brentford Griffin

Artist’s impression of the Brentford Griffin

It could be convincingly argued that it is this very connection that inspired this obvious hoax in an attempt to give the story credibility. Maybe. But whoever did so did their research or were lucky to have such a back-story to put meat on the bones of their reports.

Whilst remaining alert for pranksters, trolls and hoaxers that dwell within T’Hinternets, we are open-minded as to the alleged sighting of the elusive Griffin of Brentford.  We recognise the symbolism in the town and comprehend its importance, we have researched the history and we are well aware there are more things in this world than is thought possible in the seemingly humdrum existence of suburbia. This includes griffins, dragons, giants, genies, thunderbirds, wizards, centaurs, fawns, fairies, yeti, nessie, pixies, crypto-terrestrials, unicorns* and all the other characters of mythology and folklore.

In fact, we would go so far as to say that virtually every mythological creature is or was a real creature once upon a time. Many of which may still exist in habitats off-limits to human exploration or stumbled across by a fortunate or unfortunate few intrepid or accidental tourists whose Fortean stories are filed away under cranks and hoaxes because despite recent inventions such as the GPS and applications such as Google Earth and Ocean we should be reminded that mankind has yet to explore the depths of the oceans, the subterranean realms and impenetrable mountain ranges and rain-forests.

Who knows, perhaps some may even be a lot closer to home, obscured by our own disbelief systems and social constructs. We see what we believe.

*We are still undecided as to whether unicorns were/are real or 100% mythological.

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The Peacocks of Kew Gardens


The Peacocks of Kew Gardens

by 5ocietyx

Video taken April 2013 by 5ocietyx @ Kew Gardens

In modern times, peacocks gained a bad rep for being squawking show-offs strutting around like they were royalty with a trailing plumage longer than Princess Diana’s wedding gown.

But this wasn’t always the case. Throughout history and in various traditions, the peacock was known as a mystical bird with phoenix-like attributes and associated with royalty, rejuvenation, spirititual awakening and immortality.

If nature had not created them and a fiction writer were to invent a fantastical creature along the lines of a peacock the reader would be required to suspend disbelief such is their seemingly implausible design.

Yet the 5ociety managed to catch up with one of these magnificent birds recently in the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew and captured it displaying.

Is our current perception of the peacock a modern symbol of how we as humans have been intentionally prevented from knowing our true nature and should we look again to the proud peacock and learn from it how to display our beauty, integrity and true colours of who we really are?

Other qualities possessed by the peacock include vision, guidance, holiness, protection, refinement, incorruptability,  and watchfulness.

Video taken April 2013 by 5ocietyx

Yet the peacocks of Kew are not the only ‘mythical’ birds with a bad rep to grace royal Brentford…

Avia Venefica provides a definitive explanation of the symbolism of the peacock:

In Greco-Roman mythology the Peacock is identified with Hera (Juno) who created the Peacock from Argus whose hundred eyes (seen on the tail feathers of the Peacock) symbolize the vault of heaven and the “eyes” of the stars.

In Hinduism the Peacock is associated with Lakshmi who is a deity representing benevolence, patience, kindness, compassion and good luck.

Similar to Lakshmi, the Peacock is associated with Kwan-yin in Asian spirituality. Kwan-yin (or Quan Yin) is also an emblem of love, compassionate watchfulness, good-will, nurturing, and kind-heartedness. Legend tells us she chose to remain a mortal even though she could be immortal because she wished to stay behind and aid humanity in their spiritual evolution.

In Babylonia and Persia the Peacock is seen as a guardian to royalty, and is often seen in engravings upon the thrones of royalty.

In Christianity the Peacock symbolism represents the “all-seeing” church, along with the holiness and sanctity associated with it. Additionally, the Peacock represents resurrection, renewal and immortality within the spiritual teachings of Christianity.

Themes of renewal are also linked to alchemical traditions to, as many schools of thought compare the resurrecting phoenix to the modern-day Peacock.


Pelorus Jack

by 5ocietyx

Pelorus Jack was a Risso’s dolphin who helped guide ships through a perilous stretch of water between the islands of New Zealand. First seen in 1888, and last seen in April 1912, ‘he’ would meet and escort ships through Cook Strait, New Zealand. In 1904 Pelorus Jack was shot at from a ship called The USS Penguin, after which a law was passed protecting Jack from any harm in the future. Interestingly, the experience didnt put him off of his important work, though Jack would never escort The Penguin again, and it was wrecked on the rocks 2 years later.

Pelorus Jack would swim alongside a ship for twenty minutes at a time. If the crew could not see Jack at first, they would often wait for him to appear.

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