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The Slaving of the Giants

by 5ocietyx

giant-humans-found-in-indiana-2 There are many reports of giants throughout history, both in religious texts such as the Bible and in folklore and myth, such as the story of Fionn MacCumhaill. Steven Quayle’s excellent log of all things giants GENESIS 6 GIANTS has many reports on the discovery of giant skeletons around the ancient world, ultimately suggesting these giants to be the Nephilim – the sons of God who fell upon the daughters of the Earth – in the book of Genesis.


a Wisconsin giant

In his extremely informative book Mutants: On the form, variety and errors of the human body, Armand Marie Leroi describes Aristotle’s observation of the effect that castration can have on an organism. “Nearly twenty-five centuries ago, while working on a remote Aegean island, Aristotle made an observation that was at once banal, beautiful and chilling.  ‘All animals,’ he wrote, ‘if operated on when they are young, become bigger and better looking their unmutilated fellows; if they be mutilated when full grown, they do not take on any increase of size… As a general  rule, mutilated animals grow to a greater length than the unmutilated.’ By ‘mutilation’ Aristotle meant castration. Hence the banality of his observation that merely repeated facts as well known to any fourth-century Greek farmer as to any modern one.. He had taken a barnyard commonplace, that gelded rams, stallion and cockerels are larger than intact animals..”


an 18th century castrato

Two types, one tall, one short.

If we refer to the fossil record we can find two types of human forms, Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon. Researcher and psychologist Stan Gooch provided us with a sober theory about human origins, that we are in fact a hybrid of these two forms of primitive man. The morphology of both of these types differed enough for us to say that they were two separate species, one was a lot smaller than modern humans, and one was taller. you could say that to Neanderthal Cro-Magnon would have resembled a giant, and Gooch actually proposed that the Bible (or similar religious texts) are the written record of Neanderthal’s meeting with Cro-Magnon, preserved by us, human beings, the rightful heirs to those two previous legacies.

Cro-Magnon vs Neanderthal

Fee Fi Fo Fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman.

In the Welsh origin story of Brutus, founder of the Britons, his party of emigrants upon landing encounter only giants on the isles, whom they then proceed to chase down, fight and totally destroy.  These giants are clearly remnants of a previous race, who at this time existed only in the most isolated peninsulas of the European continent. They numbered so few they were easily eradicated by man. As stated before, Cro-Magnon was taller than humans, and had occupied Europe before humans, supplanting European Neanderthal before him, so it stands to reason that some members of the relic species Cro-Magnon could still have existed at the fringes of civilisation. it should be noted here that the tallest humans on Earth are in Denmark, Northern Europe, where giant myths are heavily prevalent.



Domestication of animals is believed to have begun prior to 33,000BCE, with the dog. But it would be fair to say that domestication of another kind would have taken place before this time, on a species much easier to control – humans. Slavery is said to be as old as humanity, and its not too much of a stretch of the imagination to see the control system in place today – such as our laws, codes of conduct or morals – is nothing more than the domestication of humans. Incidentally, Gooch proposed the actual hybridization event occurred around 35,000 years ago, in the approximate time frame during which domestication of animals began.

Egyptian depiction of domestication

Now, back to the meat and veg, so to speak.



The practice of castration has persisted for thousands of years, with both domestic animals and humans. Arab slave traders, by far the most prolific and ambitious slavers ever, traded many castrated boys. ‘The Calipha in Baghdad at the beginning of the 10th Century had 7,000 black eunuchs and 4,000 white eunuchs in his palace.”[129] The Arab slave trade typically dealt in the sale of castrated male slaves. Black boys at the age of eight to twelve had their scrotum and penis completely amputated. Around 9 out of 10 bled to death during the procedure, but the high price brought by eunuchs on the market made the practice profitable.’ Castration was also used by many nations after war, where they would castrate the remaining men and boys, rather than kill them, preferring to use them as slaves. it was used by royal families to sever the family lines of those families whom they had supplanted, or whom they wanted to extinguish.

Theon Greyjoy, the character in Game of Thrones represents a castrated royal family line, both as prisoner to the Starks (Ned being a fair lord), and House Bolton.

In theory..

Is it possible that modern humans – upon discovery and subjugation of the few remaining Cro-Magnon – enslaved the giant species, and castrated any young they found along the way? if this castration punishment was happening at the same time as domestication of animals (and modern man) then humans wouldnt have failed to notice that castration in the infant stage makes for a larger being. So were the extreme giants that are according to Steven Quayle found all over the world the first attempts to control/castrate the old giant bloodlines, and create slaves out of our tall ancestors? After all, an army of giants would be very useful for a new species intent on world domination, and the relatively few remains found today could be explained by the fact that castration would have meant certain, and almost sudden, extinction of the genetic line of giants.


Our next line of investigation will be to study the skull shapes of currently known giants to determine how closely related they are to Cro-Magnon skulls.


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Mutants: On the form, variety and errors of the human body, Armand Marie Leroi


Early humans ‘kept their chin up’

by 5ocietyx


Cro-Magnon skull

‘A new theory suggests that our male ancestors evolved beefy facial features as a defence against fist fights.

The bones most commonly broken in human punch-ups also gained the most strength in early “hominin” evolution.

A paper, published this week in the journal Biological Reviews, argues that the reinforcements evolved amid fighting over females and resources, suggesting that violence drove key evolutionary changes.

Prof David Carrier and his co-author, physician Dr Michael Morgan, propose that violent competition demanded the development of these facial fortifications: what they call the “protective buttressing hypothesis”.’

The article concentrated on the jawbone of modern humans, and early hominids, concluding that evolution favoured those with a stronger jaw to be our ancestors.


No mention that this very same idea was put forward by Stan Gooch many times in his numerous works, supported by ample evidence and solid research, but for some reason it was ignored, along with the rest of his ground-breaking ideas (see Personality and Evolution, for example).

Phrases such as ‘square-jawed’ and ‘take it on the chin’ he proposed, are references to the distinctive nature of the male chin. During a fight, fighters tend to swing for the jaw as it is a fairly easy way to knock someone out if done right, especially if the opponent has a ‘glass jaw’. We can also see the prominent jaw is a feature in many of our superheroes, the main one of course being Batman, whose mask protects every part of his face except his chin.

Stan Gooch also suggested that the male beard is an accompaniment to the prominent chin, augmenting it as such, in order to highlight and enlarge it. this could also be why we treat people with long beards more reverentially – perhaps the beard suggests to us (unconsciously) that they are to be feared or admired in some way, an  innate threat-aggression signal releaser from our distant past.

Charles Darwin


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Evolution: was man gibbon a second chance?

by 5ocietyx

what follows is a piece Stan Gooch wrote 35 years ago regarding human origins.

‘Chimpanzees and gorillas both have very heavy brow ridges. Gibbons also have these, but to a noticeably lesser extent. Orangs do not have them. The infants of all ape species have them in much less degree than the parents. In fact the young of all primates look a good deal more human than the adults. For my own money, the young of the gibbon look most human of all.

Baby gibbon

The young of apes look more human because further back in evolutionary time the adult ancestors of these primates were more human. The eighteen-week-old chimpanzee foetus looks quite amazingly human. These creatures have become more ape-like, after an initially closer start to ourselves, an example of devolution. A second, more important point is that young apes look more like us because we have managed to play one of nature’s oldest tricks – that of preserving child-like characteristics into adult life. This process is called neotony and is one of nature’s commonest methods of continuing the evolution of a species, in particular for backing it out of a dead-end. We have, for example, the flat face of the baby chimp, gorilla and gibbon, not the jutting muzzle of the adult. The process of neotony is central to any understanding of man’s evolution, and in particular to my own views.

another baby gibbon

One last word in favour of gibbons. Bernard Campbell states significantly: ‘The evidence for brachiation in man’s ancestry accumulates.’ Of course, with this statement Campbell does not mean to indicate the gibbon as such. Yet, the gibbon is the master brachiator.’

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pages 34-35 of The Neanderthal Question (1977), by Stan Gooch

Do you walk like a man, or like a chimp?

by 5ocietyx

An interesting piece from states that 8% of humans have what is referred to as ‘chimp feet’, in that the foot is effectively split in two, allowing the foot to ‘flex’ in a way rather like that of our distant primate cousins.

‘Anthropologist Jeremy DeSilva and occupational therapist Simone Gill looked at 398 people as they walked up and down barefoot in the Boston Museum of Science. They filmed the feet up close to see what midtarsal flexibility there was, and found 32 of the participants — or nearly one in 13 — “possessed both elevated lateral midfoot pressures and even exhibit midfoot dorsiflexion characteristic of a midtarsal break”. That is, they have bendy feet, like chimps.

The owners of the monkey feet didn’t look like they were walking noticeably different to the casual observer, nor did they tell DeSilva or Gill that they felt like they could notice the bending of their feet as they walked. However, people with the midtarsal break had much flatter feet than normal.

Whether the difference confers any advantages — beyond making it easier to pick stuff up with one’s feet, or climb trees — is unclear. DeSilva told New Scientist that he believed, because flexible feet should pose a disadvantage for humans who only use their feet for walking, it might be a reemerging trait caused by new lifestyle variations (like wearing shoes) that mean the feet ligaments fail to become as rigid.’

What isn’t mentioned is whether or not this trait could have existed in our paleolithic ancestors, such as Neanderthal man, who, like  those humans who possessed the midtarsal break in the foot, we previously reported had been discovered to have flatter feet than humans, which made them less suited to running.

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When One become two

by 5ocietyx

Always two there is…

This report from 2006 suggested humanity would eventually divide into two species; one race, tall, athletic and attractive, and the other squat, ‘dim-witted’ and ugly.

‘Evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry of the London School of Economics expects a genetic upper class and a dim-witted underclass to emerge.

The human race would peak in the year 3000, he said – before a decline due to dependence on technology.

People would become choosier about their sexual partners, causing humanity to divide into sub-species, he added.’

Is this a far cry (albeit in reverse) from evolutionary theorist Stan Gooch’s ideas about our origins? In fact, the descriptions used in the BBC piece could quite easily be of Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal man: The tall, athletic, ‘intelligent’ and attractive (to whom?) Homo Sapiens, and the short, dark, cave-dwelling Neanderthals, ancient foes still alive in the breast of one species, constantly at war with itself, both mentally and socially.

Gooch maintained that the final solution to the internal tug-o-war created by our hybridization would be genetic manipulation of the species. Through technology we would discover a way to eradicate our dual nature,  to divide Dr Jeckle from Mr Hyde once and for all. In some ways it would be the end of the humanity we know, but perhaps in other ways, it would be a fresh start. Without the constant battle between Ego and Self perhaps we could end the thousands of years of senseless warfare and enforced partition that have blighted the books of history since our time begun.

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